Early 80’s predator 420cc swaps? Where they at?

[Harleylife13]

I’ve got a 1984 club car ds with the factory Kawasaki 341cc. I’m thinking about doing the predator 420 swap. Who’s got write ups, pics, wiring diagrams, and specs on what they’ve done? I want to keep it functional like original with shutting off and starting with the gas pedal.

[raydhd]

A good place to start is the Vegascarts site that has installation guides with pics.

[Harleylife13]

Unfortunately vc kits don’t go to on’84. I did talk to them and they told me how I could piece it together through them.
I’m now undecided if I want to go with the 420cc or the 670cc.

[raydhd]

Would a 670 fit in there ? They show a kit for the VC 460 in the 1984 club car DS with the install guide.

[slonomo]

I'm thinking you'll need a lift kit to install the 670.

Most of the clone projects on this forum will help you get an idea of what's involved to add the 420 to your cart. I don't think you'll find a direct bolt on kit for your cart, it's too old and not as common. Most bolt on kits are for the more popular/more common carts.

You'll have to get an engine and primary clutch. You'll need to fabricate an engine mount. You'll need to position the engine properly to align the belt with the secondary clutch. You'll want to get a new belt, make sure it's long enough to fit your new engine/clutch combo. You'll probably want to do away with the starter/generator and just use a key switch and run the engine like a car. If you use the starter/gen you will have to make sure not to hook up the charging wire from the engine, and you'll need a pulley for your primary clutch.

If you use the gas tank and muffler that come on the 420, the project won't be super complicated. If you want to use your golf cart gas tank it will add some work. Fabricating an exhaust system is one of the more difficult obstacles.

[Harleylife13]

Originally Posted by raydhd

Would a 670 fit in there ? They show a kit for the VC 460 in the 1984 club car DS with the install guide.

VC claims the 460 kit won’t work with any predator engines.

[Harleylife13]

Originally Posted by slonomo

I'm thinking you'll need a lift kit to install the 670.

Most of the clone projects on this forum will help you get an idea of what's involved to add the 420 to your cart. I don't think you'll find a direct bolt on kit for your cart, it's too old and not as common. Most bolt on kits are for the more popular/more common carts.

You'll have to get an engine and primary clutch. You'll need to fabricate an engine mount. You'll need to position the engine properly to align the belt with the secondary clutch. You'll want to get a new belt, make sure it's long enough to fit your new engine/clutch combo. You'll probably want to do away with the starter/generator and just use a key switch and run the engine like a car. If you use the starter/gen you will have to make sure not to hook up the charging wire from the engine, and you'll need a pulley for your primary clutch.

If you use the gas tank and muffler that come on the 420, the project won't be super complicated. If you want to use your golf cart gas tank it will add some work. Fabricating an exhaust system is one of the more difficult obstacles.

I do have a 6” double a-arm jakes lift. I recently talk to a few other people and I’m back leaning towards doing a 420 now.

[raydhd]

Originally Posted by Harleylife13

VC claims the 460 kit won’t work with any predator engines.

You didn't read the warning right. They there MAYBE some fitment issues. This usually involves a bracket,carb/ aircleaner, muffler or something along these lines. The basis of all the 390 clones are very similar. Plenty of people here have used all sorts of clones in their swap. SOME have even swapped in a stock hemi unit that bolted in.

[Stevop25]

Go for it man. Just finished a clone swap in my ‘91 DS and I’m sure it’s fairly close to what your doing. I’m very happy with performance. Couldn’t be happier even. This was a short ride we took and I’m on stock wheels and tires.


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[sho305]

If it has the 1" belt and you change the engine clutch to 1 3/16 you may have to replace the rear clutch or have it machined. You can use the original clutch on a clone but they don't work as well and yours may already be worn out.

The stock 420 I put in a G9 Yamaha with only governor removal and jetting on 22 tires would run 31mph gps where it floats the valves. It ran 30 on a good day with stock engine no governor, but the clone gets to speed in 1/3 the distance has a lot more power.