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10-21-2017, 10:32 AM | #11 |
Happy Carting
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
My 2014 is starting to surge at low/med speed. It has not been wet since I got it. I suspect the MCOR because, well, it has one
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10-21-2017, 08:41 PM | #12 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
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I don't think rapid switch actuation would be an issue with it. However, I really don't know why mine showed 30 to 50 ohms instead of 0 when it was installed in the cart. I could hook up the ohm meter to the contacts for the switch, push the pedal, and it would go to 0 ohms but if I tapped lightly on the MCOR it would regularly show 30 to 50 ohms. Since I took it apart and reassembled it, it works fine even when I tap on it. When I get done with my Alltrax upgrade to IQ, I will take it apart again and get some more photos of the innards. BTW, the switches shown by Mouser should work fine. Last edited by Tom47; 10-21-2017 at 08:51 PM.. Reason: Added info |
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10-21-2017, 08:46 PM | #13 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
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Fortunately, in spite of all the MCORs in carts of forum members, the failure rate seems pretty low with the Mexico OEM ones. Maybe the Chinese knockoffs also. |
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10-22-2017, 03:36 PM | #14 |
Gone Wild
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
I kept thinking about the entire throttle linkage and how it that can torque the MCOR off track, so I decided to run some tests on my 2010 Precedent with the original MCOR-2.
Much to my surprise, there was quite a lot of variance, here is a good tip for those that have an XCT Controller. Connect your laptop to the Controller and start the Alltrax Toolkit software. Go to Options and enable "Throttle Linearization". Turn the Key ON and put the FNR in Neutral. Click on the "Throttle Linearization" Tab. You now have a high resolution raw "Throttle Monitor", just press the pedal and check your MCOR response. The first thing I noticed was that the Auto-Cal had made my 80% travel mark equivalent to 100% signal, that is quite a loss of pedal travel on the upper end. I also noticed that while holding the pedal firmly all the way down, it was very easy to make the throttle move, not surprisingly all the way down to 80%. I noticed there was a little free-play on the pedal axle that caused the stress on the MCOR, You can easily just change the pressure on your foot and see the signal change. I took the floor-mat OFF and using what I had on my bench at the time, I came up with this solution, it worked so well that I decided to post. The jitter on the signal is virtually gone (checked on the Throttle Linearization screen), I also did some slow driving tests and the throttle response is a lot more consistent. The picture below shows where I applied the pressure to the pedal lever opening to eliminate the free play, I also sprayed dry lubricant (Teflon) on the pedal lever friction surfaces. I don't know how long it will take before it gets loose again, but the free play is certainly one of the causes of throttle problem. |
10-22-2017, 05:23 PM | #15 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
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BTW, I installed my harness and XCT48400 in my '99 today. Fun job that was. The most fun was when I went to back out the gravel drive. I spun the tires with a very gentle push of the pedal. I jacked it back up and noticed the XCT must have been set up for a 0 to 5k control. I switched the pot high and low wires and I don't lose my hat now when I back up! |
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10-25-2017, 10:18 AM | #16 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
Hey Scottyb, did You try that "unfiltered" MCOR test using the procedure on post #14 to see if it shows your signal fluctuation?
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10-25-2017, 01:13 PM | #17 |
Gone Wild
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
Sergio,
Did you happen to see the additional photos I took of the inside of the MCOR4? It is under the post titled "MCOR4 Surgery revisited". |
12-21-2018, 03:14 PM | #18 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: West Columbia Texas
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
Sergio, What do you know about the linearized throttle settings? Can you explain what they do?
What I am thinking is your setting the throttle position to a speed? So 6mph is 15% throttle? |
12-21-2018, 03:15 PM | #19 |
Gone Wild
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Location: West Columbia Texas
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
I guess that cant be right based on the values...
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12-21-2018, 03:16 PM | #20 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: West Columbia Texas
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Re: MCOR-4 Disassembly
I guess if both sets of values are based on percentages it could be..
0-100% throttle and 0-100% speed. |
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