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Old 01-09-2025, 05:17 PM   #1
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If I install the Vatrer 48V 105AH (as opposed to the 36V, where there is a $285 price difference) Lithium Golf Cart Battery in a 2006 EZ GO PDS having the aftermarket Alltrax XCT500 controller (purchased from ScottyB along with a cable set) and the stock motor, am I creating a situation I will regret?
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Old 01-09-2025, 05:33 PM   #2
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You will not regret a conversion to lithium.
You will have to change the settings in your Alltrax to 48 volts.
You will need a new 48 volt solenoid and new charger that may be included.
You will be smiling all the way down the road with more speed and torque less weight and less maintenance!
Seems like a pretty good battery although with overstated specs.
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Old 01-09-2025, 06:02 PM   #3
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Since you have an Alltrax controller,, you may want to download the Alltrax software that allows you to set parameters of what the controller will allow in amp draw from the battery.

After I hooked up a laptop to my Alltrax and had it create a file that shows amp draw where I ride (and that file gives a ton of info) I set my max amp battery draw to 300.

So....even if the cart motor is demanding more than 300amps the controller will limit the draw from the battery to 300amp. I did this and had no noticeable difference in performance when I would drive up some very steep hills. I did this setting in order to conserve, or "stretch out" the power of a battery charge.

In your case this should prevent your BMS from a shut down if the battery is putting out more than the top BMS settings are.
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Old 01-09-2025, 08:33 PM   #4
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You’ll neither regret going lithium or upgrading to 48v. Both will make your cart much more enjoyable and doing them together will make a big difference
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:31 PM   #5
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If I install the Vatrer 48V 105AH (as opposed to the 36V, where there is a $285 price difference) Lithium Golf Cart Battery in a 2006 EZ GO PDS having the aftermarket Alltrax XCT500 controller (purchased from ScottyB along with a cable set) and the stock motor, am I creating a situation I will regret?
For what it's worth, I just installed that exact battery in my 2017 TXT48, and it is working great. Mine came with a charger, but I chose to NOT mount the charger on the cart. So I did have to cut the cable on the charger and convert that to the standard EZGO 3-pin charging port. Not sure what charging port you have on a 36v. And finally, I didn't mount the SOC+ display panel. I plugged it in and it's pretty informative, but there was nowhere convenient on my dash. And all the same data and controls are on my phone with their app. Good luck on your project.
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Old 01-10-2025, 06:59 PM   #6
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Fwiw I installed a Valtere 48volt 105 Amh battery in my 48 volt cart with stock controller.
So far no issues. Better increase in acceleration, lost almost 300 lbs getting rid of lead acid batteries.
You will not be disappointed going lithium.
No real downside in converting.

I did find their customer service very responsive when they replaced a faulty remote display sending a new one net day.
Seems like a rebuttal company that stands behind their product.
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Old 01-15-2025, 06:22 PM   #7
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Anyone buy from site sponsor Vatrer? I have purchased a couple of times from ScottyB's Cart's Unlimited and it was a flawless experience.

And now I see there are Mode Speed and Regen dash mounted dials to control the XCT500 controller from the seat! Might need one of these!
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Old 01-15-2025, 07:11 PM   #8
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I bought a 72v battery directly from Vatrer’s website last year and have been very happy with it.
Also had good customer service and was able to directly text someone with the company who refunded me $100 after I purchased as a coupon that wasn’t working on the website.
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One word of caution, some people have reported a shorter lifespan of the PDS motor by switching to 48 volts. Do your research and make an informed decision. I think ScottyB as one that doesn’t recommend it but others say it works okay. Just from what I remember.
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Anyone buy from site sponsor Vatrer? I have purchased a couple of times from ScottyB's Cart's Unlimited and it was a flawless experience.

And now I see there are Mode Speed and Regen dash mounted dials to control the XCT500 controller from the seat! Might need one of these!
I bought a Vatrer, from vatrer, on Amazon website during Black Friday sale. Battery is working great. Only issue was a learning curve for me. I set my Alltrax XCT500 to 100A regen simply because I like that level of braking effect. But the first time I decelerated quickly, on a FULL charge of the battery, the BMS shut down to protect the battery. It reset a minute or so later. But it took some careful driving to deplete the battery a few percentage points.

Now I have regen dialed back to 50A, and have tried 75A, and both work without tripping the BMS. But I miss the harder braking.

Which brings me to your observation about the mode and regen dash mounted controls at ScottyB. I think it would be an easy fix to have two profiles. 1) for full battery charge and reduced regen, and 2) say 95% soc and get my 100a regen braking effect that I prefer.

BTW, the touch screen is nice, but I didn't want to give up the dash space. I view all the same data and control on my cellphone by Bluetooth to the battery.

I also did NOT mount the charger on my cart.
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