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Old 11-22-2023, 11:16 AM   #11
Halter.nz
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Default Re: Stealth 48v Lithium Conversion

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Originally Posted by augiedoggy View Post
I'm not a fan of 12v batteries in a series with lithium but it could be argued they have advantages also like easier service/replacement of bad cells by replacing the failed battery instead of hoping the company is still in business and will actually cover the battery under warranty, and then Ive read many places charge for shipping to send the malfunctioning battery back for warranty claims.. This is expensive to do with a 48v pack especially legally. Then again... if you live in NY like me, and want to install lithium into your golf cart... your "legal" options are now limited anyway thanks to another restrictive law.
see warning below from a battery vendor..

"NEW YORK residents:
On 3/2/2023 New York passed a law banning the sale of lithium-ion batteries for mobility devices that are not certified to UL 2271, and the assembly and reconditioning with cells removed from used batteries for commercial sale within the state of New York (more details here). New York residents, you are solely responsible for researching, understanding and complying with all pertinent regulatory rules, laws, statutes, and NY safety standards."

I havent done the research to know what batteries are and arent "UL2271" certified but I would venture to guess many arent as that costs money.

By the time new york enforces its new ban on vehicles sales in NY that are not electric in 2036, we will have very few cost effect legal options as DIY and cheaper options will be outlawed. Certainly one way to control the revenue stream..
The main advantage is the price. The next closest battery is the hi-power 180ah 48v battery that's $2450. Some guy in Michigan imports them from china, test them to make sure their good, and ships them out. What I don't get is he claims a 180ah 48 v battery only 79lbs. That seems almost too light to be true for that size battery. And the size is literally about half in comparison to the 4 enjoybot 12v 200 ah batteries' footprint. It just seems suspicious. I'm a broke college kid, so spending $2000 on the enjoybot 200ah setup and an extra $300 on a lithium charger with 4 separate banks to charge each battery individually would still be slightly cheaper than the next closest option aka Hi-power.

New York appears to hate private vehicles. Guess they are trying to force their citizens into becoming one of those European "walkable" cities. Is there an actual way to enforce the lithium certification law? Do they go around checking peoples batteries now? I bet its under the specific instance of trying to register your cart to make it street legal...
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