08-12-2021, 10:11 AM | #41 | |
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Re: RoyPow problems
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The Chinese chargers I use on my Leaf packs always had an arc when plugging into AC. I didn't have your problem because just I'm on just a 25 yr old GFI breaker. I suspect I would have similar issues using the Chinese charger with AFCI breaker. Also, what Walter mentioned about surge protector. It may keep the AFCI from seeing the arc. Worth a try. |
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09-14-2021, 07:29 PM | #42 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
I just got the s51160 and can confirm it trips the afci breaker in my new house. Had to move it to a plain gcfi circuit.
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02-07-2022, 09:59 PM | #43 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
My new 551105P with roypow charger pops my gfci outlets. Two 20 amp outlets and one 15 amp outlet. Rewired a 20 amp no gfi outlet and it charges fine.
The issue from the previous posts was for AFCI outlets so don’t think same issue as mine. Any thoughts on why mine is behaving like this? I would rather not use a non gfi outlet in my garage as I’ve got four kids. |
02-07-2022, 10:06 PM | #44 |
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Not good. That means that there is leakage to ground not going through the neutral. Could be a capacitor that should not be there. I would contact them and get it fixed. Running without a GFI in the garage isn't safe as you said and no device should do this unless it's defective.
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02-08-2022, 08:55 AM | #45 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
Just an aside and may not pertain here: We are required to use GFCI breakers on our swimming pool pumps (newer code). The most common breakers (Square D) here trip every time, but the Siemens breakers will hold (they are more expensive and harder to find). It has been explained to me that there is a "trip load" attached to the breakers, and some (Square D in this case) have a lower trip load which causes this to occur.
You might check the breakers you have and see if you can find the trip value. Replacing them with a more "robust" breaker may solve your problem. |
02-08-2022, 08:59 AM | #46 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
I can see this with a pump - the starting current is much higher than the running current - unless it's one of the newer speed regulated motors. With a charger, you have some caps to charge but it should not trip a GFI. My Tesla charger and all of my golf cart chargers work fine on my garage 15 amp GFI.
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02-08-2022, 10:00 PM | #47 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
These meters are great for monitoring the battery. Cheap and easy to use and set up. I use them on my RV (one for gen battery and one for RV) and one on the golf cart after lithium upgrade.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323912880538 Amazon carries them too. |
02-09-2022, 01:27 PM | #48 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
To clarify, the GFI outlet trips, not the actual circuit breaker. Once I switched to non gfi outlet all charges fine.
I don't know if there is a capacitor somewhere in the system. Not sure why there would be one in the charger. Also not sure if possibly the charger uses PWM outputs. I've read that this noise is interpreted by a GFI as a ground fault. I called the dealership and talked to their wiring guy. He said they have this issue all the time and not just with roypow chargers. He said the manufacturers recommend not using gfi outlet. What he couldn't tell me is the why behind what's happening. Said maybe on initial start up it's momentarily spiking past 20 amps. I don't quite buy that as it would pop the breaker not the fault interrupt. Something is leaking current to the ground instead of back to neutral. Or maybe there is some noise that's being interpreted as such. All seems to charge fine, not get warm and not pop the actual breaker. Unless someone has a better solution think I'm going to buy one of those child protective covers to go over the outlet and just move on with life. |
02-09-2022, 07:22 PM | #49 | |
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02-09-2022, 08:38 PM | #50 |
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Re: RoyPow problems
Something is leaking to ground that should not be if it's tripping the GFI. This should not be happening and if they say it's normal, that is BS. These things should be UL approved but I bet that many of the chargers from China are not.
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