83 always cranks. Help!

s1120 · 12-09-2012, 12:38 PM

OK... I replaced the throttle cable, pos battery cable, and fuel lines on my cart. Now you hook up the battery and it cranks all the time. What did I do wrong?? What triggers the engine cranking? Any help would be awesome!!

Dave Box · 12-09-2012, 12:45 PM

What triggers the cranking is the solenoid and what triggers that is the throttle switch via the ignition switch. Are you saying that the thing cranks even with the ignition off? Do you have a voltmeter for fault finding? If it only cranks with the ignition on then I suspect that you have pulled the throttle too tight which has activated the throttle switch. Let us know.

Dave

s1120 · 12-09-2012, 12:58 PM

Yes eaven with the switch off it cranks. I adjusted the throttle switch so it clicks after about a 1/2" of pedal travel.

Before I did this it started normal. I don't see any wires I knocked off

s1120 · 12-09-2012, 01:19 PM

Ok did some checking. The big term on the left is the batt feed. There is continuity between that, and the small term on the right. Is that correct?

Dave Box · 12-09-2012, 01:38 PM

No that is not right. The image here is rotated but the big terminal at the bottom looks like your new battery feed. There should be a thin wire from there to a fuse then to the ignition switch then to the throttle switch then to the small terminal on the solenoid. It looks like you have a live feed direct to the small terminal. As this is the area you were working in I suspect that you have miss wired it.

Dave

s1120 · 12-09-2012, 01:59 PM

What's this switch? It pulls power from the hot side of the Ing switch but the output of it is disconnected.

s1120 · 12-09-2012, 03:24 PM

OK so doing more checking... its gotta be a bad seloniod. Its pretty old, and I'm guessing when I removed that cable it twisted something inside it no other wires were removed.

Those seloniods are cart only right? Not the same as a car one?

Dave Box · 12-09-2012, 03:40 PM

The switch shown is the reverse warning microswitch. I expect that it never worked as it was disconnected right?

If you are sure the wiring is correct then it is possible that the solenoid has jammed shut although this is unusual. With the battery disconnected you could test this by placing an ohmmeter across the two big terminals, if it reads zero it is defective. You are correct that you must use a 12 volt constant duty device.

Dave

s1120 · 12-10-2012, 11:21 AM

OK talking to the local cart place, and seems the old seloniod on the cart was a automotive one. After figureing that out, and explaning what I did... well pretty sure its that. And for about 20 bucks its worth a shot!!

12-09-2012, 12:38 PM	#1
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71	83 always cranks. Help! OK... I replaced the throttle cable, pos battery cable, and fuel lines on my cart. Now you hook up the battery and it cranks all the time. What did I do wrong?? What triggers the engine cranking? Any help would be awesome!!
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71

12-09-2012, 12:45 PM	#2
Dave Box Respect the Cart Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocky Mount, Virginia Posts: 2,190	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! What triggers the cranking is the solenoid and what triggers that is the throttle switch via the ignition switch. Are you saying that the thing cranks even with the ignition off? Do you have a voltmeter for fault finding? If it only cranks with the ignition on then I suspect that you have pulled the throttle too tight which has activated the throttle switch. Let us know. Dave

12-09-2012, 12:58 PM	#3
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! Yes eaven with the switch off it cranks. I adjusted the throttle switch so it clicks after about a 1/2" of pedal travel. Before I did this it started normal. I don't see any wires I knocked off
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71

12-09-2012, 01:38 PM	#5
Dave Box Respect the Cart Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocky Mount, Virginia Posts: 2,190	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! No that is not right. The image here is rotated but the big terminal at the bottom looks like your new battery feed. There should be a thin wire from there to a fuse then to the ignition switch then to the throttle switch then to the small terminal on the solenoid. It looks like you have a live feed direct to the small terminal. As this is the area you were working in I suspect that you have miss wired it. Dave

12-09-2012, 03:24 PM	#7
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! OK so doing more checking... its gotta be a bad seloniod. Its pretty old, and I'm guessing when I removed that cable it twisted something inside it no other wires were removed. Those seloniods are cart only right? Not the same as a car one?
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71

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12-09-2012, 03:40 PM	#8
Dave Box Respect the Cart Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocky Mount, Virginia Posts: 2,190	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! The switch shown is the reverse warning microswitch. I expect that it never worked as it was disconnected right? If you are sure the wiring is correct then it is possible that the solenoid has jammed shut although this is unusual. With the battery disconnected you could test this by placing an ohmmeter across the two big terminals, if it reads zero it is defective. You are correct that you must use a 12 volt constant duty device. Dave

12-10-2012, 11:21 AM	#9
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71	Re: 83 always cranks. Help! OK talking to the local cart place, and seems the old seloniod on the cart was a automotive one. After figureing that out, and explaning what I did... well pretty sure its that. And for about 20 bucks its worth a shot!!
s1120 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 71

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