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Old 01-15-2023, 05:11 PM   #31
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He's using a serial to USB adapter and a very old controller.. it needs to be powered up first.
I'm fairly confident the radio Shack cables the issues
My Radio Shack cable doesn't have a driver to work. I downloaded the Cables to Go and Sabrent drivers from Alltrax but they don't work with Prolific.

I need to order a new 26886 cable.

Thanks to your suggestion and making me go to Alltrax website to research, I may get this done after all.
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Old 01-15-2023, 07:30 PM   #32
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My Radio Shack cable doesn't have a driver to work. I downloaded the Cables to Go and Sabrent drivers from Alltrax but they don't work with Prolific.

I need to order a new 26886 cable.

Thanks to your suggestion and making me go to Alltrax website to research, I may get this done after all.
I know for a fact that prolific usb to seial adapters requires a driver. I spend 2 hours getting it to work on my windows 10 laptop a few years back while on the road at a customers site. I then fought with that adapter over and over for months each time I needed to use it.

Ive never seen a usb to serial adapter that doesnt require a driver. Typically its already included in the windows database and the driver install automatically but the oleder prolific devices dont work with the newer prolific drivers.. I had to keep tricking the laptop into allowing me to replace the newer broken driver with the older unsupported one that worked.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...0-349c9ce87fcf

I do agree that purchasing a newer usb to serial adapter is going to be much easier to get you going. Either that or look for an old xp or even windows 98 laptop or any pc with a serial port.
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:02 AM   #33
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He's using a serial to USB adapter and a very old controller.. it needs to be powered up first.
I'm fairly confident the radio Shack cables the issues
Yeah....my old (expired now) Alltrax controller had the same setup.

In order for my laptop to "see" it, I had to power up the controller. I put my reversing contactors in "N", then using a 2x4 I jammed the go peddle so power would be suppled to the controller.

That's the only way I could get the software to see the unit.

And I keep an old Dell laptop (that thing weighs a ton!!) in my garage in case I want to look at or change my controller settings.
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Old 01-28-2023, 11:15 AM   #34
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Default Re: Altrax 500 programming

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I know for a fact that prolific usb to seial adapters requires a driver. I spend 2 hours getting it to work on my windows 10 laptop a few years back while on the road at a customers site. I then fought with that adapter over and over for months each time I needed to use it.

Ive never seen a usb to serial adapter that doesnt require a driver. Typically its already included in the windows database and the driver install automatically but the oleder prolific devices dont work with the newer prolific drivers.. I had to keep tricking the laptop into allowing me to replace the newer broken driver with the older unsupported one that worked.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...0-349c9ce87fcf

I do agree that purchasing a newer usb to serial adapter is going to be much easier to get you going. Either that or look for an old xp or even windows 98 laptop or any pc with a serial port.
Ordered a new RS232 to USB cable and the Window 11 drivers on my laptop found the cable, program booted up and I am able to adjust my Alltrax settings.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Now I need to figure out the throttle response to smooth out my pedal response.
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Old 01-28-2023, 11:35 AM   #35
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Default Re: Altrax 500 programming

There are some better explanations on the alltrax software support site that explain the throttle curve.
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Old 01-28-2023, 12:28 PM   #36
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The throttle curve allows you to smooth the throttle response. Make sure that you don't get to 100% until the pedal is all the way to full throttle position. You can log your runs to see the throttle position vs how the cart runs. The Alltrax software is very useful to get your cart running the way you like. (I do not like turf mode! I recommend Street mode)
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Old 02-01-2023, 11:00 AM   #37
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I like my throttle to max at 100% at about 90% of the pedal travel. Bumps and whatnot can lift your foot and I've never liked that changing how much input I'm giving. Adjust to what you like, but don't be slavish to it. I spent WAY more time on my throttle curve than anything else to get my controller the way I wanted it. It matters every time you drive the thing. Where I dealt with "fidgety" was dialing in when I was fully off the throttle and then reengaged it. I ended up turning my throttle response way down to eliminate jerkiness in that scenario, and I've never been sad about it.
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