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Old 07-29-2020, 12:43 PM   #11
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Unfortunately, without having the cart in front of me there is simply nothing I co do to troubleshoot. I have done this conversion on 5 carts now via the instructions and others have successfully done it as well so i know it works. Some has to be amiss with your work somewhere.

Have you checked you other spark components mainly the coil and making sure you have power to it?
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:09 PM   #12
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Well, it works on points so i know its good. feel free to come check it out here in norther michigan lol.
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:20 PM   #13
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Another poster found this product from "Princess Auto":

https://www.princessauto.com/en/gas-...t/PA0004780300

In looking at their wiring schematic, it matches how HD / Columbia carts are wired. I am guessing that this module with alleviate the need to procure an HEI module and make the circuitry entirely.
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Old 09-06-2021, 04:55 PM   #14
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Seriously? For 30.00??...lol...where was this thing years ago??? I may have to try that out since I just procured another columbia par car
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Old 09-12-2021, 10:37 PM   #15
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Another poster found this product from "Princess Auto":

https://www.princessauto.com/en/gas-...t/PA0004780300

In looking at their wiring schematic, it matches how HD / Columbia carts are wired. I am guessing that this module with alleviate the need to procure an HEI module and make the circuitry entirely.
I must be totally stupid. How does it know when to spark? Something has to tell it when to spark? Would you still need the points for the hall effect? I think I've seen this module before or something similar in reference to a stihl chain saw and it used the points as hall effect.

Edit -- oregon 33-053. 18 bucks on amazon. Still don't know how it works on our application when something has to tell it when it spark.

Edit -- Nova -- Nova 2 -- 31-8786 -- 2 pack on ebay -- 25.99

Edit -- You tube video explaining how to use points. -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gy8bwiYEs
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Old 09-12-2021, 11:06 PM   #16
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As a side note for anyone work on these

3d printing is a great hobby. I was able to print a project box to install my bread board in and keep dirt out.

Make sure your points are clean. Do not leave the cover off for testing and then drive down a gravel road/street. They get dirty and stop working again.

You can have the gap too large. While precise gapping doesn't matter it can be too big.

These were all things I learned today.
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Old 10-07-2021, 07:22 PM   #17
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So has anyone tried the product from princess auto posted above? I have 2 par cars i want to convert and I like that idea even better
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:38 PM   #18
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I must be totally stupid. How does it know when to spark? Something has to tell it when to spark? Would you still need the points for the hall effect? I think I've seen this module before or something similar in reference to a stihl chain saw and it used the points as hall effect.

Edit -- oregon 33-053. 18 bucks on amazon. Still don't know how it works on our application when something has to tell it when it spark.

Edit -- Nova -- Nova 2 -- 31-8786 -- 2 pack on ebay -- 25.99

Edit -- You tube video explaining how to use points. -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gy8bwiYEs

I just noticed this. The points serve as the Hall Effect trigger just like in your chain saw example. Modern systems use magnets for the Hall trigger but points do the same thing.

I have been told that what the modules do is create a much longer lasting spark so that timing becomes much less tedious. They also aren't really impacted by point wear much in that, because the spark lasts long, the cart doesn't have to be continually timed to match wearing points.
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:38 PM   #19
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So has anyone tried the product from princess auto posted above? I have 2 par cars i want to convert and I like that idea even better
Looks like you just volunteered! Really, I don't see how they can't work.
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Old 10-08-2021, 03:25 PM   #20
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Lol....well ****
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