05-18-2019, 09:11 AM | #1 |
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87 Par Car engine swap help
New here, not sure if I have posted in the right spot.
I have a 87 Par Car 2 stroke and plan on swapping it out to the 420cc "big block" just wondering is anyone has some pictures, parts breakdown and any helpful tips. With the angle the clutch comes off the rear axle has anyone run into lubrication issues with the splash four stroke motors mounting them on a slant? I see Vegas Carts has a clone kit for the 96 and up has anyone used these? would i be able to adapt it for the earlier gen? Thanks, Phill I did a pretty through search for a thread similar and came up short. Also if anyone is interested I have for sale the original 87 2 stroke motor and all other engine compartment equipment that goes along with it gas/oil tanks. I believe the only thing missing is the air box cooling shroud and coil. I can get pictures if needed. I am located in Canada but am only 45 mins from the US MN border and can ship from ZIP 55605 |
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05-18-2019, 11:20 AM | #2 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
First what is your plan for reverse?
Will need a rear transaxle out of a four stroke golf cart if reverse is needed. Then you would have to fabricate a pan for the engine to sit on. I would definitely try to get it close to level. Good luck with your build and post pictures |
05-18-2019, 12:41 PM | #3 | |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
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As far as having the engine level the clutch comes of the rear axle probably a 10-15 degree angle so I'm at the mercy of the existing design, I just was not sure if someone came up with a work around for that. |
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05-18-2019, 01:19 PM | #4 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
It is more like 30 degrees. I don't think the clone will survive that angle, Another problem to consider is what are you going to use for a primary clutch ? I faced the same issues with my 82 Harley/Columbia cart. I used a complete 440 cc snowmobile engine. It is in the sled engine section here.
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05-18-2019, 02:02 PM | #5 | |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
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05-18-2019, 04:35 PM | #6 |
Gone Wild
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
What about rotating the rear axle down?
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05-19-2019, 08:26 AM | #7 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
The engine cradle crosses over the top of the frame.Without changing the pivot points of the cradle you can't get the engine in place where it would line up even if you reclocked the rear end.
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05-19-2019, 08:31 AM | #8 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
Sounds like some cutting and welding are in order.
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05-19-2019, 08:41 AM | #9 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
I just bumped the thread with Block's bosses clone swap. That would be the only way I could see to do it.
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05-19-2019, 11:24 AM | #10 |
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Re: 87 Par Car engine swap help
I looked last night it might be doable if I were to rotate the axle down 30 degrees or so (so the diff is at a 90 angle) and have use the chain drive from a torque converter with a sprocket mounted to where the clutch was. As long as i can keep the sprocket fairly small i won't loose any clearance. Using a plate i should be able to mount the engine within the pivoting part of the frame. By rotating the axle it would shorten the distance of travel for the shock but i could just throw a couple of spacers in the springs and it would give me a little bit if a lift (probably 1-2 inches)
[Quote: The engine cradle crosses over the top of the frame.Without changing the pivot points of the cradle you can't get the engine in place where it would line up even if you reclocked the rear end.} RayHD: I would have to do some measuring but it looks like there would be enough room in front of the rear cross-member to have the engine mounted with the torque converter. |
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