Accelerator pedal question

[coxey2]

Just got my first cart, its a g16 2000 model . I've never owned one, but use them occasionally at work. I suppose they all die when the gas pedal is released? Is it possible or desirable to have the cart idle when you stop moving and not kill the engine when the pedal is released? Is there a mod for this? Pros and cons to this notion. Thanks great site!

[DareDog]

Originally Posted by coxey2

Just got my first cart, its a g16 2000 model . I've never owned one, but use them occasionally at work. I suppose they all die when the gas pedal is released? Is it possible or desirable to have the cart idle when you stop moving and not kill the engine when the pedal is released? Is there a mod for this? Pros and cons to this notion. Thanks great site!

I have same cart here and looking for same info, Yes that is normal for motor to stop. after searching on here people say its bad for it to idle, why?? its not like your going to let it idle for an hour. im looking in to to for first start up in the morning when its cold out to let it warm up motor a bit.

[OgreTX]

Hi guys. I see by your post count that you are as new as I was a couple of years ago.

Both of your posts left out one key word when describing your "cart"... "golf".

When on the course, you don't want an engine running while you are hitting a shot, and you sure don't want it to take off on it's own while you are hitting. Hence the design is to stop the engine, unless someone is sitting in the seat with his/her foot on the accelerator.

I'm sure there are several "workarounds", but the "golf carts" are designed primarily for Golf, even though a lot of us don't always use them for that purpose. Some of the experts will be up shortly (after New Year's eve) and probably give you plenty of ideas.

BTW, welcome.
Ogre

[coxey2]

Originally Posted by OgreTX

Hi guys. I see by your post count that you are as new as I was a couple of years ago.

Both of your posts left out one key word when describing your "cart"... "golf".

When on the course, you don't want an engine running while you are hitting a shot, and you sure don't want it to take off on it's own while you are hitting. Hence the design is to stop the engine, unless someone is sitting in the seat with his/her foot on the accelerator.

I'm sure there are several "workarounds", but the "golf carts" are designed primarily for Golf, even though a lot of us don't always use them for that purpose. Some of the experts will be up shortly (after New Year's eve) and probably give you plenty of ideas.

BTW, welcome.
Ogre

Thanks, Mine is a golf cart but I want to pick up sticks and do yard work with it. Also noticed that the governor bolt has a weld on it to prevent moding it.

[Bubba75]

I would think it would be possible by getting rid of the pedal switch or fixing the button to stay depressed. My concern would be you would always need to put in the"neutral" position for safety. And knowing the engines are air cooled could be an issue.

As for the governor there are several options to bypass that. You can tighten the 10mm nut, zip tie the bracket, drill out the arm etc. Look up I'm the stickies for Yamaha gas and they are all covered there.

And lastly, WELCOME!

[Mike Mac]

Cox, to start with, there is no stall spring in the primary clutch on a Yamaha. A Yamaha will try to move the second the starter starts to turn.

Also, there is no oil pump in a Yamaha motor, so there is always a chance of oil starvation at extended idle, especially oiling to the top end of the motor.

With the design of the golf cart running gear, it's not safe to leave a running golf car unattended, don't want a run-away.

Personally, I like the present set up. The key switch can stay on for a month, and not burn up any components nor run down the battery!! My car can be parked on a hill and not move because the belt keeps the engine locked up to the tranny!! It's not using any fuel when it's not moving!! Those are all assets in my opinion!!

[cgtech]

Besides, if its running correctly in the first place, it takes only a drive of a few hundred feet to warm it up enough to start easily next time. I never need the choke on mine, even on a below freezing morning. I just mash the pedal to the floor for about 4 seconds while it cranks, then let the pedal back up until its almost all the way up, it fires right up.

[Cdebo1]

Not sure on the G16 but on my Yammyhauler G21 you can simply remove the floor board adn there is a small switch on the pedal itself. 2 #2 Phillips screws. Remove those screws and flip upside down and boom there it is. It will now start with just the key switch. Now a few downfalls, the engine idle will need to be adjusted. There will always be drag on the clutch so you will have to turn the key off to go from forward to reverse. And the oil on these motors are delivered by internal pressure so the low idle may case top end issues. I have done this for small parades around town where starting and stopping so many time my kill the battery but i always put it right back as others have said after the initial warm up its much easier to let go of the pedal.

[sho305]

You can just wire a bypass switch into the pedal switch. Turn that on and it stays running with key on. The wires usually go to the key and start solenoid so you could wire it in right there near key.

What you need to realize is most people that never used a golf cart much are not used to this, they are used to lawn and atv and cars that use a key. Golf carts are made to run this way and it will not hurt them at all. If you have running issues after say 30 seconds then you need to richen the idle and/or tuneup on the engine. It should start instantly when warm, and well carts just are not made to function perfectly in freezing weather they are not really intended to work in so you have to choke them when cold.

I would advise you to get used to it and see the benefits unless you have a special need of some kind, or you get a different clutch on it. But hey, you can do what you want.

Another issue is what I did, is removed the pedal and moved it up a spline to give the pedal more travel. Then I set it to go down about 1" at top of pedal before the carb opens. So if I sit on the cart with my foot on the pedal it will idle just fine, though I idle it pretty slow so I can shift easily. If I stop on a trail for a few seconds I might keep it running if I want. I have setup the stock engine and now the clone to do this, you have to richen the idle to get a good idle and tune it right in, at least for a slow idle. I never idle it for long why burn the gas. I mostly did this because I would trail run the cart hard and the engine would get hot, if you stop quick it would vapor lock sometimes. Then I could idle it some and it cooled off since its fan cooling. Another thing I did was found a block that could be stuck in the pedal hole to hold it running at fast idle to jump start something or keep my headlights bright, but I rarely use that. It will not stay at same rpm as there is no governor, so you can't leave the cart running.

This gen starting system is a hybrid much like the new cars that stop running when you stop at a light. Golf courses also don't like buying fuel.

[DareDog]

Took pedal switch and flipped it. Now only starter is running. How do I get to get motor running?


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