CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed

weaselkeeper · 10-23-2010, 02:57 PM

I just upgraded from a stock motor/controller on a 2000 CC DS series wound cart and installed a Plumquick bandit motor, a 550amp controller, new batteries and 2ga cables. The stock speed was 14mph but now with the new motor etc the best speed I'm seeing is 18mph, I was expecting around 22 or 23 mph. I've checked everythimg I can think of (tire press, brake drag, front steering) Any suggestions ?

OLD MEC · 10-23-2010, 04:13 PM

Part of your problem may be that the batterys are not broke in until 30 plus discharge-charge cycles or more depending on battery amp hour ratings? With all additions you are putting a very heavy load that batterys wont be able to handle for now? Also so often missed is that only 6 gauge battery cables were replaced and not 6 gauge cables going to solenoid, motor and F&R control?
Another thing to check is linkage from pedal to MCOR as wear to cheap quality parts dont allow full travel ?

shadowman · 10-23-2010, 04:45 PM

pasrt of it will be the batteries need broke in, new they are 75 to 80% but as you charge/discharge them they will work up to 100% and you,ll notice a difference when you get there so make sure you break them in right....................

scottyb · 10-23-2010, 05:04 PM

Don't neglect the F&R. It will need upgrading also. The motor can only draw as much amperage as you can squeeze thru the F&R in a series cart.

But..... I'm confused...... here is the Bandit motor description from PQ website....

The Bandit - Model #PQ32BCC
Speed up to 25mph (with stock controller, good quality battery pack, and removed Regen).
PQ32BCC - "The Bandit" 48 Volt Sepex motor 10 spline, 2002 and up - $225.00
This motor will fit 2002 and up Club Car IQ 10 spline differentials. This is a stock GE IQ motor with performance upgrade. Motor change only with Regen removed. For added performance, you can upgrade the controller, wires, and solenoid.
Purple motors are upgraded stock motors that you, the customer ship to us for speed and torque performance upgrades.

Are you sure you have a series cart? Did you send your motor in? What controller are you using?

weaselkeeper · 10-23-2010, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the tips, yes the batteries need to be broken in, they've had a dozen cycles or so of charge, all the cables have been replaced in the system but I do still need to replace the F&R switch to a heavy duty one

weaselkeeper · 10-23-2010, 05:15 PM

The V-glide linkage is adjusted properly and there are no dead spots, I've checked the ohm values

scottyb · 10-23-2010, 05:23 PM

Can you verify that you have the right motor for your cart?

weaselkeeper · 10-23-2010, 07:19 PM

It's the correct motor, I've talked to the Steens about it and they're at a loss too

buckmanmike · 10-23-2010, 08:45 PM

Did you check and make sure you have 48v going to motor. Sometimes its easy to leave a battery out, i.e. maybe you have a battery wired parallel instead of in series.

10-23-2010, 02:57 PM	#1
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15	CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed I just upgraded from a stock motor/controller on a 2000 CC DS series wound cart and installed a Plumquick bandit motor, a 550amp controller, new batteries and 2ga cables. The stock speed was 14mph but now with the new motor etc the best speed I'm seeing is 18mph, I was expecting around 22 or 23 mph. I've checked everythimg I can think of (tire press, brake drag, front steering) Any suggestions ?
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15

10-23-2010, 04:13 PM	#2
OLD MEC Gone Wild Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,391	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed Part of your problem may be that the batterys are not broke in until 30 plus discharge-charge cycles or more depending on battery amp hour ratings? With all additions you are putting a very heavy load that batterys wont be able to handle for now? Also so often missed is that only 6 gauge battery cables were replaced and not 6 gauge cables going to solenoid, motor and F&R control? Another thing to check is linkage from pedal to MCOR as wear to cheap quality parts dont allow full travel ?

10-23-2010, 04:45 PM	#3
shadowman The Last Moja Morani Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: jumping from cart to cart Posts: 8,975	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed pasrt of it will be the batteries need broke in, new they are 75 to 80% but as you charge/discharge them they will work up to 100% and you,ll notice a difference when you get there so make sure you break them in right....................

10-23-2010, 05:04 PM	#4
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,406	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed Don't neglect the F&R. It will need upgrading also. The motor can only draw as much amperage as you can squeeze thru the F&R in a series cart. But..... I'm confused...... here is the Bandit motor description from PQ website.... The Bandit - Model #PQ32BCC Speed up to 25mph (with stock controller, good quality battery pack, and removed Regen). PQ32BCC - "The Bandit" 48 Volt Sepex motor 10 spline, 2002 and up - $225.00 This motor will fit 2002 and up Club Car IQ 10 spline differentials. This is a stock GE IQ motor with performance upgrade. Motor change only with Regen removed. For added performance, you can upgrade the controller, wires, and solenoid. Purple motors are upgraded stock motors that you, the customer ship to us for speed and torque performance upgrades. Are you sure you have a series cart? Did you send your motor in? What controller are you using?

10-23-2010, 05:12 PM	#5
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed Thanks for the tips, yes the batteries need to be broken in, they've had a dozen cycles or so of charge, all the cables have been replaced in the system but I do still need to replace the F&R switch to a heavy duty one
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10-23-2010, 05:15 PM	#6
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed The V-glide linkage is adjusted properly and there are no dead spots, I've checked the ohm values
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15

10-23-2010, 05:23 PM	#7
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,406	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed Can you verify that you have the right motor for your cart?

10-23-2010, 07:19 PM	#8
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed It's the correct motor, I've talked to the Steens about it and they're at a loss too
weaselkeeper Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15

10-23-2010, 08:45 PM	#9
buckmanmike Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Snellville, Ga. Posts: 1,304	Re: CC motor/controller upgrade but no speed Did you check and make sure you have 48v going to motor. Sometimes its easy to leave a battery out, i.e. maybe you have a battery wired parallel instead of in series.

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