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Old 06-06-2019, 08:41 PM   #1
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I am building off a previously modified 2002 Ezgo PDS that the motor was blown and it was left for dead. Cart had a Alltrax dcx 500 in it that shows a solid green light when powered up. My attempt was to fix the small body and suspension issues, new 2ga cables, new plum quick motor, install a limited slip in the rear end, convert to 48 volt ,new Trojan battery pack and use the alltrax dcx that was in the cart.

I thought I wanted the Regen motor system to ease my descent down hills on my hunting properties since I would be using stock brakes. I’m not so sure now. I have my new PQ crocodile motor installed and contacted Ron at Alltrax to discuss mapping for my dcx controller and the motor combination. I was told mapping was not done on the PQ motors with any out of production controllers such as my dcx. Makes perfect sense but now I’m in a spot where Ron told me if I want to run that crocodile motor I would have no choice but to buy a new XCT 500 controller and splice it into the speed sensor on the PQ motor.

The old GE motor that was on the cart when I bought it did not have the speed sensor wired to the controller. I assume the Regen was programmed out of the controller settings.

Was my dcx controller acceptable to use with my new motor set up? Will the new controller provide better service? Do I connect the Regen or not?

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Old 06-07-2019, 04:24 AM   #2
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:32 AM   #3
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I am building off a previously modified 2002 Ezgo PDS that the motor was blown and it was left for dead. Cart had a Alltrax dcx 500 in it that shows a solid green light when powered up. My attempt was to fix the small body and suspension issues, new 2ga cables, new plum quick motor, install a limited slip in the rear end, convert to 48 volt ,new Trojan battery pack and use the alltrax dcx that was in the cart.



I thought I wanted the Regen motor system to ease my descent down hills on my hunting properties since I would be using stock brakes. I’m not so sure now. I have my new PQ crocodile motor installed and contacted Ron at Alltrax to discuss mapping for my dcx controller and the motor combination. I was told mapping was not done on the PQ motors with any out of production controllers such as my dcx. Makes perfect sense but now I’m in a spot where Ron told me if I want to run that crocodile motor I would have no choice but to buy a new XCT 500 controller and splice it into the speed sensor on the PQ motor.



The old GE motor that was on the cart when I bought it did not have the speed sensor wired to the controller. I assume the Regen was programmed out of the controller settings.



Was my dcx controller acceptable to use with my new motor set up? Will the new controller provide better service? Do I connect the Regen or not?



Thanks fellas
I'm sure some others will chime in. Consider this an informative bump. My situation is a bit different than yours but may shed some light.

I have the xct500 and I'm running a motor with regen with out the speed sensor hooked up. So to get regen working the speed sensor isnt needed with the xct.



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Old 06-07-2019, 07:26 AM   #4
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So could I have gone with a series motor and kept the old controller?
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:30 AM   #5
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So could I have gone with a series motor and kept the old controller?
No. Series and SepEx are completely different motors and controllers.
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:42 AM   #6
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So if I do not connect the speed sensor will the alltrax function control box work as designed? I liked the thoughts of tuning the Regen based on driving conditions/ terrain. I also liked the idea of being able to set the cart up to be safer for my wife and kids when they are driving it.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:02 AM   #7
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So if I do not connect the speed sensor will the alltrax function control box work as designed? I liked the thoughts of tuning the Regen based on driving conditions/ terrain. I also liked the idea of being able to set the cart up to be safer for my wife and kids when they are driving it.
Hmm, I'm not using that either lol I am using a diy 3 position key switch. It allows you to switch between 3 user profiles on the fly that's lockable when you pull the key out.

I would think the regen settings would still be tunable you would lose the ability to control speed. I basically have no limit to rpm it will go until it comes apart.

You will need a speed sensor to limit rpm/speed.



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Old 06-07-2019, 10:12 AM   #8
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Thanks fellas for all the input.
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:24 PM   #9
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So if I leave the speed sensor off the cart will run but I will have no Regen. Is this how I should run the cart all the time?
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:12 PM   #10
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DCX has no way to read the motor speed sensor, that controller just never had a way to even read it. While the DCX does offer some "regen" capability, it is "dumb" without a speed sensor. And there is No way you can adjust it "on the fly", or have more "modes" for the kids and stuff with that older controller. (THE FOLLOWING SHOULD BE CONFIRMED WITH OTHERS BEFORE USE) If I recall correctly, the Club Car IQ map is a "soft" one that is safe for almost any motor. Not over-taxing, or pushing the motor, but not much risk of hurting it either. Would not give best performance, but not damaging it. Please confirm this before taking it as the spoken words.
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