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Old 12-02-2022, 07:08 AM   #5
Eco Battery
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Default Re: Zone Golf Cart | Navitas 600a Controller | BigBattery Lithium Upgrade = SLOW??

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Originally Posted by bbooth1986 View Post
I have a 2010 Zone 48v 6 passenger golf cart, which was previously running 8 Lead Acid Trojan batteries, through a Curtis 1268 controller. It was running great, but the batteries were getting weak on hills and depleting quicker than normal.... I decided to jump headlong into Lithium.

Step 1: I purchased 2 BigBattery Badger (2nd Gen) 48V lithium batteries.

These are the units: https://bigbattery.com/products/48v-...mc-48ah-2-1kwh

- Outcome:
I installed them and the cart was painfully slow and seemed to be in a limp mode. 3-4 MPH top speed

- Troubleshooting:
I called BigBattery, they informed me I needed 2 more batteries to be able to run my controller/motor. I begrudingly sent them another $2k

Step 2: 2 more batteries arrived, installed them both

- Outcome:
Same limp mode.... !!!!!

- Troubleshooting:
I called BigBattery, who insisted my controller was the culprit and I needed to upgrade, which they suggested a Naviatas 600amp unit.

Step 3: I dropped $900 on a Naviatas 600amp controller, and installed it....

- Outcome:
After some persuading, it is faster than limp mode but not even close to the power I had with the old lead acid batteries and curtis controller. It **** near squeals the tires on initial throttle application, but then the torque completely dies off and it slowly arrives at a top speed of ~16MPH. On hills is slows down to 12-13MPH.

- Troubleshooting:
I fortunately now get diagnostics with Navitas, which indicates a "Low Battery Limiting" fault. I called Navitas and they did some tweaking, which fixed the fault but not the speed. Navitas thinks its the batteries, Big Battery thinks its the controller or something else. The Low Battery Limiting error also came back this morning, and they are fully charged....

I am about to give up.... please, before I drop this thing in a lake... any thoughts on what the issue(s) might be?
I definitely think you would be happier with an Eco Battery. However…..

Before you give up, go into the Navitas app and just lower your Battery Voltage to 40V or even 38V. If the Navitas controller sees less voltage than expected by their algorithm, it will pull power. Their controller is designed to limit power and protect the battery from too much voltage drop. Since your packs starting voltage is lower than the typical lithium battery, it will sag into the range where power is pulled.

At least then you will know if it’s the controller or not. It may be the final solution, but will help weed a few things out.
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