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Rurki 08-05-2019 09:45 AM

Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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I thought I had everything in, but forgot the copper busbars. So waiting till they arrive to complete the pack this coming weekend. I have the diagram provided for the Leaf build, but am cautious when connected batteries. I will be triple checking the connections before I bolt them in :)

Before:
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Removed 400lbs of batteries and cut the battery hold down off.
Sanded the rush and sprayed it with Rustoleum before creating the base.

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I created 22x10 inserts for the bottom of the battery box, then filled the space with 2 inch angle iron for support. Afterward I bolted a 22x20 piece of aluminum for the deck. Its solid as a rock and easily supports my 210 lbs.

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Following the extremely detailed guild created by MCJEFE and I'm slowly and nervously building the pack. Thanks to cmysstailights for the 3D printed terminal covers, they fit perfectly.

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May be a stupid question, but is there a particular series of terminals that need to be connected first? Left to right, top terminal? Don't want to short anything out, so being very careful.

PingEye3 08-05-2019 10:14 AM

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Attached is the drawing I supplied for McJefe and his RXV lithium install. You can see the position of the bus bars on the drawing. Nice job on the tray, BTW. :thumbup:

PingEye3 08-05-2019 10:43 AM

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I suggest that you close off the top of the back wall up to the cart label and also the triangular areas on both sides below the rise in the cart frame over the axle. You will get a lot of dirt, water splash and debris, if not. The batteries basically close all that off before, but the dirt & water didn't matter as much for them.

First pic for a single pack. Charger on bottom next to pack, DC-DC converter on Driver side flat area. When I have done a double pack in a TXT, I had DC-DC in same place but charger was mounted on 5" tall all thread above the DC-DC converter, 2nd pic.

MCJEFE 08-05-2019 11:53 AM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
Looks like your pack is coming along nicely!

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Rurki 08-05-2019 12:05 PM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by PingEye3 (Post 1641868)
I suggest that you close off the top of the back wall up to the cart label and also the triangular areas on both sides below the rise in the cart frame over the axle. You will get a lot of dirt, water splash and debris, if not. The batteries basically close all that off before, but the dirt & water didn't matter as much for them.

First pic for a single pack. Charger on bottom next to pack, DC-DC converter on Driver side flat area. When I have done a double pack in a TXT, I had DC-DC in same place but charger was mounted on 5" tall all thread above the DC-DC converter, 2nd pic.

Thats exactly what I was worried about. I live in south Florida, so water and mud are going to happen. I thought the batteries needed a bit of airflow, but ill seal it up just like you did.

Thanks for the clarification and advice.

Rurki 08-05-2019 12:06 PM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by PingEye3 (Post 1641865)
Attached is the drawing I supplied for McJefe and his RXV lithium install. You can see the position of the bus bars on the drawing. Nice job on the tray, BTW. :thumbup:

That's the diagram I have printed in my garage. Connecting the terminals still scare the hell out of me :)

Thanks, more to come after I get the busbars in.

Rurki 08-05-2019 12:07 PM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by MCJEFE (Post 1641881)
Looks like your pack is coming along nicely!

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Thanks! It's your fault. You and that detailed build :mrgreen:

bronsonj 08-08-2019 09:00 AM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by PingEye3 (Post 1641865)
Attached is the drawing I supplied for McJefe and his RXV lithium install. You can see the position of the bus bars on the drawing. Nice job on the tray, BTW. :thumbup:

Great diagram PingEye! Man, I wish I had this when I started on my build. It would have saved me a lot of hours searching the internet and trying to triple check everything.

bronsonj 08-08-2019 09:33 AM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by Rurki (Post 1641885)
Thats exactly what I was worried about. I live in south Florida, so water and mud are going to happen. I thought the batteries needed a bit of airflow, but ill seal it up just like you did.

Airflow/cooling is important but the more capacity you have the less heat buildup you will see for a given amp draw. Basically if you have 10 cells and 90 amp continuous draw they will heat more than 20 cells in a 2P config and 90 amp draw. But I don't know what kind of rise you may see. If it's a degree or two then it's not an issue either way. I just don't know and given we both live in FL where it's 92 degrees outside we need to be cognizant of battery temps.

If you are worried about it, put in a fan. There are a lot of choices at BGMicro. I bought four of these from them today:
http://www.bgmicro.com/fan-axial-40x...l-bearing.aspx
I'll run them from the other side of the solenoid and wire the four in series. So when the solenoid is activated the active cooling will be running.

---edit--- I just noticed every post so far on this thread is from someone living in Florida... Pretty wild

Rurki 08-09-2019 09:25 AM

Re: Lithium Project is a Go!
 
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Originally Posted by bronsonj (Post 1642762)
Airflow/cooling is important but the more capacity you have the less heat buildup you will see for a given amp draw. Basically if you have 10 cells and 90 amp continuous draw they will heat more than 20 cells in a 2P config and 90 amp draw. But I don't know what kind of rise you may see. If it's a degree or two then it's not an issue either way. I just don't know and given we both live in FL where it's 92 degrees outside we need to be cognizant of battery temps.

If you are worried about it, put in a fan. There are a lot of choices at BGMicro. I bought four of these from them today:
http://www.bgmicro.com/fan-axial-40x...l-bearing.aspx
I'll run them from the other side of the solenoid and wire the four in series. So when the solenoid is activated the active cooling will be running.

---edit--- I just noticed every post so far on this thread is from someone living in Florida... Pretty wild

Thanks, i was looking at mounting some 120mm fans inside, just in case. I have some industrial units from a computer build I completed.


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