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Farmerjim55 11-17-2022 10:36 PM

Club Car motor flood rescue
 
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Hey guys. Need advice. Our old Club Car buggy went under in a recent flood event and I’m trying to bring it back to life. The motor had seized and we could therefore not push the cart forward or backwards as the rear wheels refused to spin in the same direction. So we had to lift the back and drag it into the workshop.

I managed to remove the motor and I have managed to crack it open. It looks really bad but I’m hoping it is saveable. The problem is that it looks totally different to what I’ve seen on Yoitube and also the service manual I have downloaded. The motors I’ve seen been taken apart have slots for the posts going to the brushes but mine doesn’t have these. The posts are bolted straight through the motor chassis. I’ve managed to open a small gap between the motor and the back plate but I haven’t been brave enough to push it out further as I don’t want to to damage the brush assembly.

Can someone please tell me what’s inside and how I can safely get the rotor out?

Added: I’m not looking for advice on whether or not to undertake this job. I’m looking for anyone that may have a link to a video or workshop manual dealing with this particular motor, or sone one that has actually undertaken a rebuild of this particular motor. Thanks.

WalterM6 11-17-2022 10:59 PM

Re: Club Car motor flood rescue
 
I think the best thing to do with that motor is put it in a black plastic bag and put it by the road. Just being honest.

CP241 11-17-2022 11:05 PM

Re: Club Car motor flood rescue
 
Yeah that motor is trash. I wouldn’t even bother trying to do anything with it.

Looks like it was submerged for a while. You’re going to have a LOT of work to do… brakes, wheel bearings in the front and rear and differential bearings are probably trash as well so plan on taking the rear axle apart and replacing all those. Controller, FNR, and wiring harness and pretty much anything else electronic are also likely well beyond the point of salvage.

I’d start fresh. Get ahold of David hicks at revolution golf cars. Get an IQ conversion kit with the MCOR. New alltrax controller and a new motor and you should be set. He can get you all the hub bearings and other bearings as well, since he is a club car dealer.




I’d HIGHLY recommend replacing literally everything and rebuilding the entire cart if you plan to keep it. Otherwise you’re gonna keep chasing gremlins until the end of time, or until you eventually replace everything anyway

Farmerjim55 11-18-2022 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WalterM6 (Post 1917908)
I think the best thing to do with that motor is put it in a black plastic bag and put it by the road. Just being honest.

Not particularly helpful and doesn’t address my question in any way. Thanks tjo

CP241 11-18-2022 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Farmerjim55 (Post 1917915)
Not particularly helpful and doesn’t address my question in any way. Thanks tjo

Unfortunately for you he’s 100% right.

Good luck

LukeL 11-18-2022 07:57 AM

Club Car motor flood rescue
 
That motor is probably done. And the brake hubs are probably locked up too. It’s usually not just the motor.

The reason you can’t get the backplate off is probably because the armature is rusted to the field coils on the inside of the motor case. If that’s the case it’s very unlikely to be salvageable, but you could try tapping on the splined end to see if it will come out. The other option is to force the backplate off. The small ring that holds the bearing in the cast end cap will break but it isn’t that important. Be aware of the internal cables from the brushes going to the A1/A2 studs. They aren’t that long.

Farmerjim55 11-18-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeL (Post 1918030)
That motor is probably done. And the brake hubs are probably locked up too. It’s usually not just the motor.

The reason you can’t get the backplate off is probably because the armature is rusted to the field coils on the inside of the motor case. If that’s the case it’s very unlikely to be salvageable, but you could try tapping on the splined end to see if it will come out. The other option is to force the backplate off. The small ring that holds the bearing in the cast end cap will break but it isn’t that important. Be aware of the internal cables from the brushes going to the A1/A2 studs. They aren’t that long.

Thank you so much. How refreshing to get an actual useful response. I’m aware of the short length of the internal cables going to the brush assembly and this is the reason I haven’t forced the backplate off. I’m going to try to undo the posts connected to the brush assembly and then keep tapping on the rotor towards the end hoping that I can push the backplate out fully. The rotor is already moving inside the stator.

Great point re the brakes but I disassembled them a while ago, thinking they were causing the locked wheels. But they weren’t. It was the rotor being stuck inside the stator due to silt and crap building up and bridging the gap between stator and rotor. As soon as I removed the motor from the transaxle housing the wheels were spinning freely again.

rowlands57 11-18-2022 08:52 AM

Re: Club Car motor flood rescue
 
When posting on public forums you'll get all kinds of feedback. Take the good, ignore what you want to; and keep the commentary to yourself. The folks that replied to you have helped countless others, if you don't like what they have to say move on to the next reply.

Volt_Ampere 11-18-2022 09:55 AM

Re: Club Car motor flood rescue
 
If the motor wouldn't turn, you are going to find a mess around the brushes. It may be fixable but you will need new brush holders and a new bearing and a whole lot of cleaning. I don't know how to get that particular motor apart. I have only rebuilt Hitachi motors from Yamaha carts and they have two small bolts on the end holding things in place.

Fairtax4me 11-18-2022 10:07 AM

Re: Club Car motor flood rescue
 
On that one there should be two screws near the center of the back plate that need to be removed to release the bearing retainer. When those are gone the back plate pulls off, but if the bearing is rusted it may be seized to the plate and need some persuasion or some heat to get it to release. Then the armature goes out the other end of the case.

The problem with flood motors is the coil windings get corroded and short to the case or to the armature. Which usually renders the motor unusable, and can cause damage to other parts of the cart as well due to increased current draw because of the shorted windings. I'm with everyone else here, that motor just needs to go in the scrap pile. Waste of time to try to do anything with it.

Drain the axle case and see if water comes out. If there is water inside the axle housing, and especially salt water, then it may be rusted beyond repair as well.


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