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clifton63 02-11-2009 02:04 PM

Axle Bearing
 
On a 2004 DS, are the axle bearings on the inside of the seal? Is there an inner and outer bearing on each side? I had an axle submerged in salt water. The wheels turn fine, there was no water penetration in the tranny itself. I suspect the bearing seals held as well and water did not penetrate into the axle tube. If there is an bearing outside of the seal I suspect it is sealed and if so, would that mean "water tight"? I removed the clip from the hub, but the axle would not slide out. Not sure how to pull it. Please advise

CC-John 02-11-2009 05:21 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
The axle bearings are outboard of the oil seals.. The "seals" on the bearings are designed to keep the grease in the bearing and dust out.. They are not designed to be water resistant.. On the axle in my rebuild, salt water had seeped between the bearing and the oil seal and corroded the outer race to the axle tube.. It took a 5 pound slide hammer and the use of a torch and a lot of foul words to get the axles removed from the tubes.. Both axle bearings had to be replaced.. Replacing the bearings requires the use of a hydraulic press.. The bearing retainer rings have to be replaced also, as they are not designed to be reused..

clifton63 02-11-2009 09:11 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
Thanks John that is exactly what I needed to know. BTW, I am back on track with my rebuild. I spent 4 hours on Sunday tweaking the frame. It is ALL ON THE MONEY now. I used the oak trees again as a frame hold and used my 3 ton floor jack turned sideways as a frame press. worked better and was more precise than the come along. I bought a used Advanced 11hp motor on Ebay today for $150. This is their torque/speed motor. It looks barely used and retails for $900. It has the fan design so the motor breathes. I am going to probably bite on the 480 amp logisystems controller for $280. I have read good things about them. I am still trying to stay under $3000 for the total build. I bought a parts car over the weekend which also had a bad frame (i bought it for the frame and discovered the issue after I got home with it and seller wouild not give me my money back) but there are many other parts I can use and sell the rest on Ebay.

clifton63 02-12-2009 07:40 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
to pull the axle out of the tube, do you have to unbolt it from the diff first?

CC-John 02-12-2009 07:57 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clifton63 (Post 143258)
to pull the axle out of the tube, do you have to unbolt it from the diff first?

No... There is a large internal snapring behind the axle flange that must be removed before the axle can be pulled from the tube.. To remove the snapring, you need a pair of 90 degree snapring pliers..

Do yourself a favor and get a FACTORY service manual for this cart.. It will be the best money you spend on it..

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BRS 02-12-2009 08:10 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
I hope you keeping this cart and not selling it!!!!:roll:

CC-John 02-12-2009 08:43 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRS (Post 143277)
I hope you keeping this cart and not selling it!!!!:roll:

No Chit!!

That frame is an accident looking for a place to happen with all it's been thru.. Aluminum that is repeatedly bent will work harden and become brittle, it can fail without warning.. I had a friend with over 30 years experience in working with/welding aluminum give the frame on my rebuild a thorough inspection.. It had numerous hairline cracks in several welds due to the normal flexing during operation.. He cleaned up and rewelded several of the crossmember welds in critical areas.. And since he knew that this was going to be a performance build, he added some extra gussets in areas he's seen fail on other CC frames he's repaired over the years..

clifton63 02-13-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRS (Post 143277)
I hope you keeping this cart and not selling it!!!!:roll:

Not sure what you mean by that. I would not be going forth with the project if I was not comfortable with this frame.

Even before I started with this frame I inspected and found some cracks in welds where the round tube under the cowl joins the side. There were also some small cracks in the front plate bumper. In looking at some used carts, I found cracks in these same areas. Seem to be trouble spots. After I fixed the frame I went over EVERY weld and took it to a welder. He welded every weak spot (cracks and what appeared to be a structurally week weld) with double the metal that the factory puts in. This frame is solid now. There is no accident waiting to happen. I did not bend it back and forth and back and forth and back and forth which does weaken aluminum. I assure you this frame is more solid than it came from the factory and it is straight as an arrow.

A.D. 04-05-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
ttt

Universal_Mechanic 04-05-2010 07:52 PM

Re: Axle Bearing
 
I just fixed one today where the axle slid out, off the bearing and retainer, .... Cart would not move due to the splines being seperated. I think somebody put a bearing in it improperly

I pressed it all back together, then tack welded the retainer in 3 small places so it couldn't slide apart again if it wanted to. Can anyone remember what color the bearing end seals are originally? This one had orange and I think they were black stock, .... Would confirm my suspicions of previous improper assembly ....not that its really important, I just like playing automotive detective sometimes, lol (or in this case golf cart detective, haha)


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